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DATING ADVICE FOR WOMEN: RECENTLY DIVORCED MEN

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Recently he started going for runs and I instantly noticed him getting fitter and fitter, but there was that ring that put me off. But, Unfortunately, the pain associated with the break up is lasting longer than the relationship ever did. I ended up hurting that man terribly, unintentionally, when i left because he fell in love with me.

Best wishes to you. It has been five months since my break-up with Mr.

Things You Should Know About Dating A Divorced Man - If I really love myself, would I make this choice? Natalie encourages and saves us from ourselves but I am sick and tired of hearing how it is all OUR fault.

I get so many emails asking me about whether to date someone who is separated, recently divorced, or even fresh out of a breakup that I wanted to tackle this tricky subject. It would be handy if we could avoid the vulnerability that comes with doing the due diligence and taking appropriate action where needed. I personally know people who have gotten together while one party was separated, and in one case the wife refused to sign so they had to wait for it to lapse and got married as soon as it did a few years later, and in the other instances where it worked out, there was no faffing about with the divorce, etc. Avoid falling into the trap of not seeing the wood for the trees: There are people left brokenhearted due to being involved with partners who were still affected by a breakup or divorce that happened anything from months to decades before. The experience over time that we spend with a person means that we get to see if actions and words match and whether what we thought or they suggested was on the cards is actually happening. That said, keep in mind the following: 1. And that it ended. Is this what you want to be in the middle of? Judge who they are on the merit of who they are. If your interest tends to get piqued by , it would be more beneficial to evaluate why this is attractive to you. You camouflaging their issues is only causing you to blend into the background of your own life. I have been dating a truly kind man for 8 months. We previously knew each other as friends in college 30 years ago and just coincidentally met up again. He had been broken up from a 6 year relationship for a few months. She was a narcissist with capital N and he is an empathic people pleaser who truly cannot bear the thought of ill feelings with people. Our first few months were heaven and he really appreciated my insight as i had a relationship many years ago with a narcissist type. So it is truly affecting us now as he knows he cannot go forward emotionally with me right now and he is also clinically depressed over it. I love him so much and want to help him. He needs to process this, then stay on his own a bit to get over it. And if you find someone in the mean time, well, the timing was off. I have enough drama in my life. Wish him well and run like hell. He did start counseling. You just need a bit of perspective. My ex was going through a clinical depression stage and I stuck by him. He eventually used me when he was down and as soon as he was better it was off to new women! I thought I was giving him all the love he needed through his recovery, but he really just needed a doormat while he planned his next sexual misadventure. If he needs the closure, it is important for him to find it on his own. And wait until he is better. How many months has it been? He is still deeply involved with her as evidenced by his being so hurt over her not returning his feelings. Where do you think you fit into that picture? And, you should not be involved in helping him break it off with her so that he can be with you. He should be a man and do it on his own. Why would you want to be the OW other woman , FBG fall back girl or FWB friend with benefits. Think more highly of yourself. You deserve someone truly unattached. You are not alone. I so appreciate your help and concern. We were not lovers in college. I felt so happy to find a genuinely kind man and when he opened up about her and his hurt I felt I did the right thing by being there for him as a partner is supposed to do. I texted this am and said I think our conversation today deserves to be in person, if you can spare time later. Seems too congenial given last night you know? What I find so hard to believe is his 180 degree turnaround in his treatment of me lately and knowing I have done nothing to deserve it, causes me the exact hurt he is feeling from her. How could he inflict that on me?? She may well not be. However, he is acting like a man who does not know what he wants and is treating you like an OPTION. You MUST walk now! The first 3 months were the honeymoon period as with my ex -bf and then after that you keep trying to recapture the guy that sucked you under and he is not the same. You deserve so much more…. I finally realized I do too! This guy has some serious baggage right now. That he knows that and wants to deal with it is to his credit. I always likened it to seeing pig fly. There are pigs out there, just flying around, and around, and around. Give him some time and space to let him work on himself. Give him the gift of sorting out his own problems on his own time. Personal healing has to come from within. They will help you insurmountably. Well we are broken up and my heart is just shredded. Could he see getting bank with me when he feels happy about himself? There was so much good that those memories are suffocating me. I told him it was suspect we break up and same time as she returns and for now seems to be cordial with him. She is a narc I know just from the detailed stories so I know SHE wants something other than wanting harmony…. He truly has never made any real references to our future ie no future faking. So for him to say that to me want the world— and 2 weeks later we break up?? Stop martyring yourself for this man. You deserve someone who wants to be with you 100%. Forget him and his ridiculous issues with the narc ex and go out and find a man who will actually appreciate the wonderful woman he is actually WITH. It has to be related to her— she is seeking something from him and he is prob going to go back and think she will not abuse him this time. What gets me is I asked him straight up for the truth, just tell me!! Just really hard to feel good about myself if being a good person doesnt matter…. Whatever this guy is telling you, it just reeks of BS. I understand how hurt you are and these painful situations can make you obsess on all kinds of stuff and the why, why, why? Whether he is or not, ask yourself where is his empathy for you? I am not going to tell you what to do, but that you are in the state you are in over this guy speaks volumes. That you are here at BR is great. Start reading, you sound like you might need some boundary work. Take care of yourself first and get out of the crazymaking cycle by focusing on you. I wish you peace, you are going to be ok. I know I absolutely need to look at my own co dependency and stop fixating on him and the whys. But I do know that. For example; he gave her the house when he left, and got nothing. But — the house was only just bought with a 100% mortgage, which she could not afford. And he paid no child support, ever. See what I mean? People lie and tell half truths. You are WAY too invested in this mans previous relationship. If that was the main thing you bonded over analysing her then, by definition, once he is over her then your role in his life is finished. What he chooses to do now is not my concern. Sometimes I wonder if I´ll end up turning into a nun. The last time I found a guy attractive — completely EU with too much ego — I just told myself I´d soon get over finding him attractive. And that was soothing, strangely. I would like to share my life with someone, though. I feel the same way. I prefer to be on my own than to make the mistake of investing in the wrong person and wasting my time. Taking care of myself and spending quality time with my well-wishers is satisfying. I see no point in dating someone unless he truly enriches my life. It has been five months since my break-up with Mr. I feel nothing for him, except regret for trusting him, regret for not picking up on his lies, and regret for giving him my time, care, and attention. I am unable and unwilling to trust as easily as I did in the past. My tolerance for emotional manipulation is low — and I doubt that I will share my gentle, caring side with anyone again. Even with new-found friends, I am choosing to be cautious. This is just the way things are for me for now. I feel good about putting myself first for a change and ensuring that nothing and nobody may distract me from my goals. Life is too short and too precious to squander it on unreliable people. I wish you all the very best in taking care of yourself. Do I care now no. There are too many broken men out there and I am not the 6th emergency rescue service behind the police, ambulance, fire, AA and RAC! Red flag and then it clicked he was sleeping with his ex 6 years on so cue flush. Another single never married guy admitted he was selfish, played the date down as a friendship thing then wondered why he was single… again cue flush. The last date was with a man who was eventually exposed as a player and when he backed off after one date and gave me the friendship card I flushed. The pool of available men once you are over 50 is dire. Most men have gone to seed and expect attractive women who look after themselves to be interested. So now I have my hobbies, cats a good life and am content. People say I may be swept off my feet but my head rules my heart these days to avoid the BShitting chancers out there. I have been through enough pain to let a man close to then be messed about and if I spend my life alone so be it. There are worse things than that. Even with the good ones. This is exactly how I feel. I am coming up on 1 yr. No interest in dating or a relationship. What you said about your BS radar and the just plain unattractive qualities either mentally or physically. I would rather be alone with my pug than have to endure another guy and all the BS that comes out of their mouths. I have no interest in dating. The hold us to some high, unreasonable standard but expect us to keep them to the lowest standard possible. How have we wound up with a global society of emotionally stunted, immature men who are well past the age of such sad excuses? I give a bit of rope to the young 20-some-odd male, but I hold a grown man to a higher standard and yet he behaves no differently sometimes worse than his younger counterparts. I know I sound like a broken record and frankly I will keep saying it even if it falls on deaf ears: Men DID NOT BY AND LARGE ACT LIKE THIS! We are responsible for our part in all of this too. Has that along with my aging contributed to allowing boundary busting behavior? But the men have to be willing to bust our boundaries on the outset. I keep harping on the significant change I saw, experienced and heard about from my other girlfriends and guy friends around 2006 when men no longer dated women as they did in the past: i. I do not have amnesia. I recall those days in NYC in my 20s when I was struggling to get by and somehow managed to date men who at least did the bare minimum above. Was I really all that wise for my age? The men by and large did not go out of their way to behave as assclowns. You want to accuse me of rhapsodizing nostalgic, go ahead but I feel terrible for women in their 20s today who do not at least have the yardstick I do from 15 years ago. Now, men cannot be bothered. They set up coffee dates. They do whatever they can to have the woman pursue and pay for dates them. They are more interested in a power play than in developing and earning a relationship. They want the goodies all up front, no responsibility and zero accountability and god forbid we squawk! Natalie encourages and saves us from ourselves but I am sick and tired of hearing how it is all OUR fault. These, so far as I can see are my options. Neither are damn appealing to me. We keep coming here scratching our heads in sheer wonderment and utter amazement. Confounded and gobsmacked by the exception of the asshole being now the rule. I love Monty Python, but the men of today clearly had hamsters for mothers and their fathers smelled of elderberries. And we keep coming here while the men keep going to SoSuave. Sell your snake oil elsewhere. Hear me and hear me loud: I do not nor have I lived my life with the belief that a man makes me whole and gives reason to my being. But did I believe I would meet a man in my prime and ready age for a serious commitment of some sort not even marriage! I thought life experience, knowing myself better and being more mature and ready to take on the emotional, mental, physical and fiduciary responsibilities would be approximately after I graduated college at age 30. Since 2006 however, I have been shocked and suffering from a Rip Van Winkle somnambulist dating existence the likes of which I had never encountered in NYC or LA in my naive 20s. Now I am smarter, have more life experience, look even more attractive and have more to offer and I am being wooed with less? It is getting worse. One way or the other I can find it. Now I busted his balls BR fashion but he is a friend and defended his truth serum by giving me the cold harsh facts. Dating for the last several years has had an effect. You can tell me until the cows come home and the sun sets in the west that I am EUM but after over a year of concerted study, self-reflection, therapy and this site, my conclusion bolstered by my nearest and dearest is that I am not. I have been made fragile and vulnerable with this drip-drip method since 2006 of men dating me in the most obsequious ways. I admit my expectations were and steadily managed down as well as most of the women on here. It is the insidious nature of the circumstances and when we are completely, totally and up to our ears in the mind-effery we break down and find Natalie via a Google search that I can only imagine is akin to: Am I losing my mind? What happened to men? We come here to heal. We learn or relearn. We are being or have been programmed. We are social animals and friends, relatives and what not is not the equivalent to the bond two people share in intimacy and yes, love. Last I checked, love is the reason for our being. It is our ultimate reason to exist and this longing for love is not bad, is not wrong, is not unhealthy. It is our greatest attribute as human beings. It is what motivates us to rise everyday even if love is not only the love of ourselves which is healthy in reasonable supply but love and devotion to our families, our children made in love? We die for love. We sacrifice for love. We give the best of ourselves for an emotion which goes beyond our basic need to survive but infiltrates everything we do as creative, thinking, complex creatures. Love is universal and specific. We thrive on love. We exist primarily on the throes of love. It is the binding agent in all our actions, societal and domestic. Love is not rational. It cannot be measured it cannot be contained. Love persists so long as we are willing to persist along with it. Love is our right and honor. It makes us and it breaks us, but to deny love is to deny our humanity. Men in large droves are not interested in love. Maybe they were hurt many moons ago but so were most of us. I may have gone crackers like Quint, but I had enough sharks to make me so and I see what I see and I know what I know and the worst part is the good women are giving up and the men are taking umbrage. Men would rather lose me in an instant because they want the power, the control and the ability to do things on THEIR TERMS ALONE than have a woman with any intelligence, empathy, consideration, value, or self-respect. They want cheap and easily led. They hope by now, our expectations have been so managed down over the years that by the time we meet, I will go along with THEIR PROGRAM. It hurts to know that normal, common decency and basic manners are gone as well as this nasty mindset most men seem to now have. I think the coldest comfort is being alone, boundaries intact, sure, but alone year after year with only the few assclowns who I finally acquiesced just by sheer force of a broken will peppered in as a reminder of what I am avoiding. I can be intimate. I can show gratitude. I can expect support in return. I can offer and I can demand. No enjoyment or thrill. I have a man in my life who is both a colleague and a friend. He is 22 years my senior. Now some of you may say get over the age difference but I cannot. I have tried but I cannot. He is closer to my parents age than mine and it is too steep a hill for me to climb. Yeah, I feel like good advice is always given after the fact and sometimes runs counter in the moment before we can judge the impact. Anyway, this man is NORMAL! Ladies, this man is not an assclown, EUM, Narc or other such BS. He has his stuff but he maintains a normalcy with both good and bad results for me. He is a gentleman. The kind that holds a chair out for me wherever we dine. He is quick to grab the tab although I throw down too as this is a friendship and should. He hates it because it goes against his sensibilities but he accepts with care and gratitude. He talks to me like a human being. He learns more and more good and bad about me over time as I do him. He can see and knows I am fragile. He treats me with care not brusque unfeeling. He is in all respects a man I would set up with any woman in her 50s who lives in the SoCal area. He is intelligent, literate, knowledgeable without bravado and it is a mystery why he is still single although I think he gave up on the romance scene long ago. This is what men used to do! This is how men used to behave! This is how it used to be when men courted women not too long ago. He is a man of another time. He is nearing 60. He allows me the privilege and it is as this man is a well-know established writer of import because he understands the nature of our relationship. But still, he dotes and pays attentions and recalls the minutest details of me because: he cares. That is the difference between the men of today and the men from another generation. And he is the sort of man I was used to back in my 20s dating both my peers and slightly older. His care and consideration is not a guise and is not alien to me as I dated men who behaved in like up until 2002 but certainly the tide changed in 2006 and every year the behavior is more gross, more shocking, more astonishing, etc. I know good from bad. What has happened to my judgment over the past few years is that bad becomes relative. I might have suffered learned helplessness along the way. But I am not seeking it out. Nothing and I do mean there is nothing wrong with wanting that. I may wind up alone for the majority of my life by virtue of the fact that men have given over to the most basest and primal of urges with no approbation to keep such wantonness in check by our society and by men leading by example who are too few and far between. Men want a pack mule. I remember when years ago, men used to lament how women could take advantage, be gold-diggers, etc. You heard about on talk shows, radio, and whatnot. Do me that one little courtesy as I keep trying to Wayne Dyer up myself, keep working on me, and keep being open to unnecessary casualties of a gender war brewing right under our noses. I adore Natalie and she saved me. I thought I was losing my mind. Too many of my girlfriends were willing to make excuses, justify and rationalize but are now starting to come around when the obviousness is too much to ignore. Natalie reaffirmed rather than re-taught. I truly intended this to my a quick reply and found my fingers typing like Mozart banging the keys. Like it or not, men in many respects set the tone for all interactions and if we women continue to buffer, excuse, rationalize, tolerate the unacceptable then men will not roll their craptastic behavior back. It will carry on for our daughters if it is already I believe it may be for the rest of us. We may be victims of a social decay and perversion infiltrating ourselves with every new gadget, technological shift, online access to dating, porn and all sorts of social connections conflating the real issue at hand. We can either choose to be mules or more. Perhaps the solution is as antiquated as the Greeks. Sure, but not probable. Is this where women may be left with little recourse left to guide them? Women will get wise even if it takes us a century to get there. The men are currently holding all the cards and laughing in our faces as we keep trying to play a high-stakes game without any chips. There are those of us who will push away from the table and see the only way to win is not to play. We will survive but we are alone by virtue of our lack of stomaching such a high stakes game for which long-term there are only losers and no real winners. When women stop and refuse to play, then and only then, can the terms be renegotiated. It will take I suppose the pendulum to swing so out of whack before women rise up in numbers and awareness to see with the clarity of having watched their mothers, sisters, aunts, neighbors and friends plow the field alone before they drop dead. A Boxer I am not. I will allow this thought to disparage my aforementioned theses. I meet and develop various relationships with men continually, and most not all are selfish, entitled and demanding of everything without any consideration to what they should offer in counterbalance. Professional, platonic, romantic, etc. Even as a child I never thought I would get married. What we believe is so important. I had relationships that lasted 1-2 years but I did not think I was ready for the responsibilities that come with marriage. I was also honest about this with any man who was and those that were I let go because it was the right things to do. The difference between then and now is the attitude most men have today. The selfishness was not so off the charts as it is now bordering on ridiculous. Men pursued, they courted and would even wait before we became intimate. I had mature breakups in my 20s compared to ending a relationship now when these men are acting so badly, I have to wonder if they just want us to end it. They whine and moan and then blame. I can be very happy in a long-term relationship without marriage so long as it is happy, healthy and supportive. I actually know someone whose youngest daughter was being wined and dined by a member of European Royalty. They had been friends for a year before dating. No expense was spared for this young lady of 20 who mixed with Royalty in Europe, was flown in private jets etc she got the full works. His mother said wait and see how you feel on your return, then if you feel the same talk to her father. The girl in question would be described as a commoner but a stunner. So the young man returns after being incommunicado and never contacts her. In his absence the girl continued her life smart seeing her freinds including platonic male friends. That would be a major control freak red flag to me. She is now being courted by another man who pulls Royal Rank on the other man. The lesson from this is that no matter what age or how much money men have they can still be 1st class assclowns with poor manners. The least he could have done was finished it instead of the fade out. If men prat about with me they only get one chance then I flush for good. Right on that one and who put her there? Yup that man or another one. The more men are told when they bust boundaries there must come a time when they stop and think but probably not. I always believe that if people are told about poor behaviour they have 2 choices….. That sorts the wheat from the chaff or the men from the boys though not many men are left standing. I believe that there has not been many changes in human behavior, but many of us have lowered our standards and have invited assholes into our lives. There are many great men out there, we simply have to accept them into our lives. There are all kinds of people around. He speaks only for himself, in that moment. His way of life will quickly stale. You may find that over time you find him less pleasant, less interesting, bitter. A lot of comments came in. He was being open and willing to look at his own behavior too. Now is all of this a coincidence? Porn has always been available via mags, vids, etc. Men approach me and they must be at least cordial. Not at 6 months, not 6 weeks, but a week out and blamo! I go for the brainy guys is the only shared quality I see. Divorced and settled into his singleness, yes, I am open. It bears no resemblance to mine. The bfs I had were people I met through work, friends and living arrangements. Dining out was never a big interest of theirs or mine. When we did costs were shared, or sometimes they treated, never seemed an issue to me. There was only one who did a lot of that — expensive meals, hotels and weekend getaways. He paid for everything at his insistence, and he was wealthy. Could never understand why, when he was so nice, kind, reliable, affectionate it never deepened emotionally. One day he just stopped calling, and I found I disnt really mind that much. I was for him merely an escort girl of sorts. Did have perfect manners though. And if a man said that to me, about the porn, I would have difficulty in remaining friends. That glimpse of the real them — however nicely spoken they are, however middle class and well dressed — would put me right off. MR, reevaluate who you have invited into your life, and I believe you will see a pattern of unhealthy, at least I have. I apologize in any respect. Sure we have all been hurt but we deal with it, move on and change behaviour that may have put us in that situation. I have a friend who thinks that the men I meet are desperate and extols the virtues of online dating. Yet many of the those same men have or are online dating. I have been comparing myself to his very attractive ex wife and wondering if he would be as excited to have kids with me as he did in the past with her. I think he really does love me. He is sweet, considerate, and caring. And second I worry his sweet actions are just what he is transferring to me, from when he was with her. I know I need to be more confident in myself, because, I think, if not, my actions are going to sabotage a potentially good relationship. But again, I want a future with him. Why am I being so crazy? Read, read and read some more. Do you see a therapist? But, I made damn sure I got as much help as I could get. You can do it to. Forget about his ex-wife. If her beauty was everything why is he divorced from her? What if you are picking on information from what appears a complicated constellation? Why silence the voice of your gut? Being confident in yourself starts with giving more credit to your ability to make judgments about yourself and your situation. But just throwing it out there…ugh…one of my biggest pet peeves ever. When he then called his mother the B word, that was the kick up the arse I needed to start NC I had been dithering. We can all have negative feelings about family members or exes, but men who routinely use either the B or even worse the C word are, to my mind, most likely misogynists. Someone else here was it you??? My own prejudice is, in part, due to knowing some unmarriageable men—extreme arrested development, looking for a mother. My code word for the 1st woman a guys dates after his divorce. Divorce Clowns will cheer him up, boost his ego, give him great sex, etc. My policy: I never date separated or newly divorced men.! I cried and cried because I really found the guy desirable. I was his Divorce Clown abut 20 years ago, and it turns out…. Now when a guy tells me he is separated or newly divorced — I give no more than that brief conversation. Happy Trails to all of us single gals! So many fun things to do without dates and romantic partners! I cried my heart out over him too; my mental state impacted my friendships and ability to do my job I was such a torn up mess. My life is MUCH BETTER now! Was just journaling tonight about how much I love my life which feels like a miracle given the pain I was in 6 months ago. So thanks, AJR, and I wish you and yours all the best. In the summer time I dated a man who I believed to be divorced but was only separated, and for less than a year. I realised too late and was heart broken. After meeting a string of men who were afraid of commitment, I thought this man with his 18 year marriage was at least, surely, not a commitment phobe. And I liked him, a lot. Really, this brief episode was just awful. Hence, perhaps, my possibly exaggerated response to a MM making advances mentioned in last 2 posts. As you know changing ourselves for the better is not an overnight process. But keep at it. We women need to stop feeling that a man is essential to making our lives complete. This realization and new found truth has come with age. I like my life. But I can always find something to do and spend time with friends to fill the void. I feel the need to just stay away. To reminisce is to wish for that thing you believe will make you whole. But that is not the case. I still care and want to know how he is, just like he very much wants the same. Wish it were easier. I pray for strength to get through this. It felt good to get it off my chest. The whole on-line dating thing is also out of the window now. That is one huge candy store for EUMs of one description or another. All the best to you, too. This marketplace view of seeing people as commodities is a frightening one. He was not married but has two young children with his ex. When I met him he was one year out of his relationship with her. He had lived with her and they owned a home together for 8 years. He was also 10 years older than me. Since he told me it had been a year since they broke up and she lived in another state, I believed that he had or at least was working on moving past his relationship with her. We moved full steam ahead into a relationship that seemed to be going somewhere. A very long story short, by the time I realized that he was still emotionally attached to her I was already in hip deep. Of course he was and still is in COMPLETE denial about his feelings or dependence on her. I dealt with his denial and his unwillingness to commit to me off and on for 3 years. I broke off the relationship for good in April when on a trip together, he told me that she was coming with their two children to stay with him in his tiny apt for a few weeks in the summer. I was floored and cried so hard. I felt like such a fool because deep in my heart I always knew that he would not commit to me because he was still playing house with her long distance she lives out of state. Natalie, I came across your blog shortly after this happened and I thank you for your insight and for sharing your experiences with us. You do get past it, it just takes time and sticking to NC. My exAC told me he was divorced 4 years. I thought it was odd that he and exW seemed to text, talk and meet up excessively. At first, I minimized, because they are coparenting 3 children. He told me his exW has hardly no contact with his family since they split. He said his exW moved to the other side of town. But, my instincts started telling me something was shady. Turns out his exW lives 1 mile from his front door. Divorced barely 1 year. Separated 4 years ago, reconciled for 2 years and divorced right before I met him. And exW has plenty of contact with his family. As I saw recent pics of her on vacation with family. Even if she has no sincere interest, when she sniffs out he has a GF, she can jump in and cause drama. It keeps him EU. He prefers to lie and future fake, because keeping it casual is the most he can handle. He was in DENIAL whenever I talked to him about the boundaries with ExW. And then there was the recent exGirlfriend who was also a ghost in our relationship. Another living 1 mile from his front door. AArgh, I finally got tired of negotiating, retreating, playing Columbo and feeling used. If your in a relationship, you have to ask to speak to the exWife. Afterall, your spending time with him and his kids, so you are justified having a convo with her. Red flag, if he balks at that request. At first I thought that was a crazy idea. But, I get it now. Your story is so familiar! I also read your flashback about the ER visit. Funny how those flashes keep coming back to haunt us. They serve as a reminder to leave ACs alone. Believe me I have many flashbacks myself. Sounds like the guy you were involved with was a piece of work also. So for a person like my Mr. U I was ripe for the picking. Best of luck to you. We were in his truck, returning from a day trip to the beach. Out of the blue, he says. Oh did I tell you the crazy way I met an exGF? I took my daughter to the ER and she was a nurse. She was good looking. I got the courage to call her a few days later. She asked me when I was going to fix her up with my friends. I told her I was interested. She said your married, so no thanks. I told her I was getting separated soon. It took 1 month but finally she caved. She was good looking. I dated her a year then kicked her to the curb, cuz I reconciled with the exWife. I said, well this is what generally what happens when a girl gets involved with a married man. I wanted to jump out of the truck. His arrogance was nauseating. He semmed proud of his conquest and no empathy. This story just confirms how important it is to have strong boundaries and stay away from men who are obviously unavailabe. The end result is always disappointment and heartbreak. This should have been the major red flag as I look back on it all now that he made excuses that she would make life hell with access arrangements and was scared of her. I was there to hold his hand through the difficult times but all I got was crumbs. During the relationship he had been texting other women, going on chat forums and escort websites for ego stroking. But I was too soft to kick him to the curb, as I made excuses with him bring depressed and struggling with the divorce. It got so bad he stop communicating with me and when I asked what was happening I got nothing! Any way we broke up and went into NC, then 6 weeks later I get a text asking my expert opinion on something! But got no thanks or even asked how I was!! Then said he wanted to be on his own, which my reply was he should have said rather than string me along! Selfish AC… Then two months later I see him out on a date with someone!! A complete slap in the face!! You end up with crumbs in the end. I was totally drained from the experience. I started dating again and was charmed by a widower, but recently learned his wife passed away only a year ago. To tell you the truth, even though she was an amazing woman, the Tales of Yore started to bore me. Let someone else comfort him. I once heard that line in a film and it stuck forever. This was a Helena Bonham-Carter film about a couple who become friends with a rich heiress, he woos her, only the heiress dies and he finds himself madly in love with her even though he was only after her money in the first place. So the couple breaks up eventually. If they had to divvy-up the stuff in the divorce they tend to be pretty protective of their nest egg, and home. Plus, there is factor of his children. All so complicated, seriously, it is easier for us to develop and be happy in our own lives without these men. What worries me are the multiply divorced. A third marriage has something like a 90% failure rate. Is it that the dude does not do well in a marriage due to some personality issues or was he just unlucky? My dad was divorced 3x and the reason was definitely the former. Good lessons in how not to be. I really listen to how the ex is talked about. Yep, if it was all her fault, if he accepts no part in the failure of the marriage, time to run away fast. There really is no time limit on getting over it; I dated someone who divorced in 1990 and still was angry about it. Some newly divorced had their marriages die a long time ago. I too worry about the end of my marriage and whether I am over it. Partially because of the circumstances; we never fell out of love, I had to leave to find work. Partially because my ex is a wonderful, intelligent, socially aware person and most men I have met since do not come even close to what he is. I am no longer physically attracted to him but I do miss the meaningful companionship. I realize I was really lucky with my ex husband and that maybe I ought to just give up. Obviously we broke up for a reason, namely problems neither of us had the skills or maturity to resolve. She was still a big part of his life — including, having a key to his home. Every time she called he jumped, and they still did family outings with the college age children — funny though, he declined her invite to reconcile. A lot of them are just strange. Some of these guys will never get over their wife, girlfriend or whoever especially if the woman has dumped them. What can I say! I hope not for her sake but he still talks about his dead wife constantly and recently took this lady on a holiday to all the favourite places he went to with his wife. Your friend is going to get screwed, as she sounds like a true Florence. Has she always been co-dependent? From what I can gather she knew both of them before his wife died and maybe she has had a secret thing for him for quite some time and now the wife is no longer around its full steam ahead. She definitely has her own agenda here. Men will do what they want, when they want. My ex husband was living with a girl shortly after we split and he kept ringing me and coming around saying he still loved me and wanted to get back together. I asked him if his girlfriend knew how he felt and he looked at me as if I was silly. I finally figured out that what he was doing with this other girl had nothing to do with how he felt about me. The poor girl was a stop-gap until he got me back and then everything would be great between us again. What was he thinking! It becomes a pattern in their life with issues never being resolved, just masked until reality hits at some point if it hits at all. Both myself and my husband have moved on however, due to the fact of being mistreated whilst married which resulted in me losing my self-esteem completely. My belief now is that, I will never meet anyone again. Is it because of the perception held about myself. He knew better than to tell tales with red flags. He had nothing bad to say about his ex wife and he loved his mother, two things which I viewed as positive. There was nothing further to add — ha! Seven years later, I was so fed up with him that I got up the nerve to compare notes with his ex and we had a lovely afternoon. It clarified a lot. It took me another three years to line up an escape route. I left my wedding ring on top of a note before I went out the door. WHERE THERE ARE NO BOUNDARIES, THERE IS A WEALTH OF PAIN WAITING FOR YOU. I was operating out of this sick premise. I guess I just needed to really, really learn this lesson. After this article, I am just wondering if I have picked another unavilable male because I am still so unavailable. I wish you all such blessings in walking this path that is so HARD and takes a lot of courage. The Object of My Affections has been blowing hot and cold. I know, I really do, that he is interested, but he pulls me close and then pushes me away again. He has been divorced for many years and has minimal contact with EXW as kids all grown up. I just posted an update see earlier near my original posts. He broke up with me, I am just beyond devastated. I want him to want me— even after he heals, but there is no such guarantee…. I am a great woman- he does know that- I just feel like maybe I could never quite compare to how hr felt about her— and that is very tough to swallow given the emotional abuse she subjected him to during their relationship. Some are comfortable in this environment, as its what they know. This guy has a boatload of problems, and is not over the ex. There is no room for you in his life. Give yourself some time, and look for someone who is attracted to healthy. This man cannot provide it. I wish this article was penned a few months ago.. LOL because this article felt like it was meant for me to read. We dated for 4 months and shortly after started to show the signs which I thankfully recognized before I found myself in the FWB category. Its quite fresh and there are even days when I would like to call him but I think its best for me not to do this, he needs to figure this out on his own and I will not be anyones shrink he was a great friend but I want more. Thanks NML all the best with the show!!!! I suppose because they are in shorter supply, and we older chix are in excess, they really feel no need to get their act together as some chick is always there desperate enough to take them as is. Seems to be a lot more allegedly available guys that have major emotional issues, financial issues, addiction issues. I find this really alarming as I am a very overedumacated sort and am not hanging out in crappy bars, hook up singles venues, anywhere remotely trashy and still encounter dudes rife with these problems including attachments to exes, using women as rebounds etc. Methinks our society is headed in a very bad direction. I am finding men at my age 65 much nicer than when I was younger. We all need time to recover from disappointment and loss, but some men do not have the will or energy to build their own lives. The widower did fear he would be stuck there, was ready to clean out the house, remove his wedding band, etc. He was Taking Steps. Or at least I did. It was the same with the ex. The wife, the kid, the this, the that…I was third on the totem pole, our needs as a couple came last. I made up my mind, through BR, that I was never going to devalue myself like that again. The creatives I meet seem sensitive, concerned, and readily accept that relationships start as friendships…with a click. Maybe because creative roles require them to be imaginative, practical and in the moment? I do think available men get taken off the market quickly because there are more women around. I tend not to focus on that too much, because all it takes is one good guy, right? Although I am educated in the sciences, I am also very humanitarian and creative. It seems as though these dudes just want to watch life on TV rather than living it daily. I miss the exchange of ideas, the in depth looking at issues; most of my colleagues just want to talk shop. At least you give me some shred of hope that maybe in my 60s, when I retire, I will be able to leave this area, though I will miss mountains and mountain lions, and be able to travel a bit beyond my home base up north and find such men. Love what you wrote. I think that because men think with their private bits — we will have to renew and make major societal rules similar to what was going on in the 1950s in the USA — in part, family ties, dating, monogamy, and no sex before marriage. Divorce was not the norm it was disgraceful. So many women suffered depressions, shock treatments and were committed by their husbands into asylums. Unless we women change and enforce new social rules including freedom of sexual preference.. Feels so un-natural for me to not be having sex on a regular basis. I think women set the parameters on sex because we historically have had so much more at stake. We still do, but it got lost in the confusion of new found freedoms e. I wish the pendulum would swing to the middle already. I was brought up in a world-class city and have always been torn between my need for the vibrant, cultured urban world and my deep love of nature. Very, very hard to find someplace that blends the two. The men I work with here are very interesting, educated, rather progressive and broad-minded people with many interests. Like me, they are all from other places, which is very typical in this field, and as transplants we have a lot in common. They are my equals — and unfortunately all are already married. The only single men here are the locals. Because of its beauty, this area is also a prime spot for retirees and artists which did seem promising at first — but almost all of them come here as well-off couples who are enjoying a comfortable retirement with their hobbies and grandchildren. I have yet to meet one suitable man who has retired here as a single person. I am not going to find a partner if I stay here. Not quite sure what to do about this truth. I know a handful of singles who have all dated the same pool of online men and now will only date strictly off Cape. There are things here that meet many of my needs, but the man thing is pffft. Lived in both and came close to killing myself. Lots of older, fit men come here for the races but find the poverty and trashiness of this town a turn off. Dating a local and the horrid, humiliating situation with the at work AC has convinced me to avoid locals like a disease. I do a lot to try and help, even fix this community, but it is a matter of working very hard and getting very little in return which I guess is to be expected. I made a very wrong choice on where to live although I also realize that at the time, this seemed a really good choice, that I have a great job, most of my colleagues are awesome, and the financial analysis of my situation has shown that sticking it out so I can retire early while I am still vital and healthy makes the most sense. I own my own homes, pay my own way in all things, and am very careful to protect my assets because of this very issue. Tis really cool to read the perspective of another older women and at least know I am not alone. Yep, teeth are scarce and hygiene can be iffy or is that whiffy. I was raised to be wannabe white, wannabe middle class by my uneducated parents and bailed to the woods at 17 and worked my way through college as I was NEVER going to be sucked into wither wannabe or redneck values ever again. Sadly, my home community, where I lived with my ex is more rural try 200 people than here but also had a small educated, progressive community. I guess it is much harder to live in these areas when completely alone than partnered. Does that place exist? Best wishes to you. I am not making excuses, but the X was the most exciting thing that happened to me there. For him, too, although he liked that atmosphere. Gosh, it was dull. I have since moved to a major metropolis. Lots of stimulation and choices. One man gave me a huge hug on the first date. Forty years ago he would have hit the road. Maybe that makes a difference? I asked to meet up with him in-person, but he was too afraid because he claims we would eventually resent one another over the distance — it could never work. I stopped e-mailing him. I just want to stop, and move on, for good. It is a terrible feeling of being used and abused and they rarely, if ever, apologize or even see their maltreatment. I used to have a hard and fast rule of no divorced or separated men until I hit 35. I realized I was going to have to relax my rule if I ever wanted to see daylight or nighttime with a man again. My first and critical mistake was allowing him to even sniff the steam off my pee never mind that I focused on the 2 years separated, him living in his own apartment for 2 years. There had been no emotional airbag in between so guess what I was? The buffer, the bridge, the doormat. Painful lesson and one I will never do again. The man is a Narc so his separation status is not the only issue at the fore and ironically, due to his selfish, self-serving treatment of me, I got out in a relatively short amount of time. In that respect, it was a win for me but a brutal victory. His selfishness was off the charts in every respect. She seemed normal to me and she is. Hell, she worked and paid for everything while he mooched off of her. He feels entitled to it too. Did he ever give her any thought about what he was contributing and how to make her happy? I can say after dating him 4 months, NO, NO and NO. Of course, he took zero responsibility no matter how many times 3 that I know of for sure I tried to ask him what he did or did not do to contribute to their divorce. He left her with a 10 month year old child validated in obsequious ways to seek out his narcissistic supply on his website. No, his ex-wife I can only imagine is a co-dependent. It still steams me he cannot accept, own, apologize or make amends to me or anyone else for that matter. I know better and I know what any woman who snags into him will get. Hope they enjoy the one-sided narcissistic relationshit he can provide and nothing more. Children do make it more complicated. Yet another aspect he was totally insensitive about. I wanted to wait and make sure we were solid before becoming involved. I thought that was healthy and mature. He is a user, an operator, an opportunist, a liar, a hypocrite, and a stand up right bastard. He is an entitled little Napoleon with a shrimp dick and a false self to protect his fragile wittle ego. All I was to him was a warm body, an ear to listen to his grievances and his own aggrandizement. Being used and abused is the worst feeling, especially if the abuser is incapable of realizing the errors of their ways. He may appear willing and eager — wonder why? I learned a lot of lessons but I think we sometimes tell ourselves this positive takeaway to explain or validate our experience s. Sometimes we just get unlucky and sometimes we get lucky. We try to make sense of it but I think we do the best with what is offered. The reason I say this is the separated Narcs brother met his now wife when he was newly separated. So you see, it does happen. It happened right in front of me while I dated the brother who was the typical EUM we write about here. Some of us by hook or crook find ourselves with assclowns, while others who are far more ignorant land up with the princes we all hope for in the end. The things these men will tell themselves in order to sleep at night is astonishing. They will do mental calisthenics to avoid any shred of personal responsibility. Sadly, men have become so selfish and driven by their own agendas and desires, we are trampled on in their wake. Not sure why we bother? Optimism in the face of reality where men are continually satisfied by 24-7 online porn that satisfies only their needs by the way and creates a disparaging standard for regular women to aspire to, online dating and texting crap where every woman is merely an object or a function, but real care, compassion and devotion is too much to bother with. Desperate women will accept the unacceptable, the intolerable and the nere do wells in the hopes of rescuing, saving and fixing these boys into men keep doing ourselves and society a disservice. The damage is lasting if not permanent. People tell me to be open and optimistic. Every single time I paid dearly. This from a grown ass man who pretends to be stupid when it suits but prides himself on being so smart otherwise. I recently had a date with guy, who currently divorcing his wife…he told me on the first and only date, that his wife decided to divorce him after being with him for 20 years and 4 kids together, the yongest one only 4 years old! Strange really, his wife is not scared to be alone with FOUR CHILDREN, amazing!!!! Do I want this man, of course NOT, he definitely not ready to meet anyone, 5 months of separation is not enough! I was sooooo desperate that I ignored the many huge red flags. Yes I know how stupid I was. It was only 6 weeks and I hardly saw him in the last 2-3 weeks but I was hopelessly hooked. So clingy and in need of love and affection. The damage is proving to be long lasting in my case, too. That might sound crazy after such a brief period of dating, but I feel like I never want to date again EVER. I only attract assclowns anyway. I have a friend who is five years separated with no divorce in sight despite what he says. When my ex-husband and I separated we each met someone else within a couple of months. I was definitely done with my marriage and thought of myself as single. I eventually bought a house with the man I met and my exH is still married to and has a child with the woman he met back then. The odds of someone getting involved with a newly divorced person and have this result are pretty low. That said, there are other factors to look out for before ruling someone out. We were all young. I think I was EU which is why I wanted out of my marriage and then left the other nice man with whom I owned the house. I was probably truly single for the first extended time in my life and still EU, many years later when I met the AC who brought me to BR. From what my child tells me, her father and step-mother do not have an especially happy marriage. No AC stuff nor related to being divorced. Just the odds of life… I will say that I think something my mother told me when I was younger is often true. I have changed so much, though, that, perhaps, I would enjoy it and do a better job now. I also used to meet many more appealing men than I do now so it may be a moot point! Every single man who I have ever known in my entire life always said they wanted someone like me, but they never pursued women like me. This is why getting pregnant the oldest trick in the book is what so many women have resorted to. This is why, if I were ever o not be married again, I would never ever in a million years date any man from my ethnic group the men I have been talking about. But I suspect that all men are the same. You guessed it, ladies: An AC BITCH. When we met he told me he was separated for a few months. Then I found out it was actually just weeks before she left and I and him met. Now he has only one month till he leaves to his own country, and suddenly he announces me out of the blue that his ex is coming. He told me that and implied that we will not see each other during that time. NOt even for one night! This is the same guy who told me a few days ago he would want to have kids with me. The first one ripped my heart out almost beyond repair and hoom here comes number two. It was fascinating that I needed to replay the tape once again. The second one was used to heal from the first sick I know. Both ended in a disaster. First one goes back, second one gets a divorce after I leave him , never tells me and now is screwing someone new. The someone new will most definately be the fbg but it still burns the same. I needed to learn this lesson twice and this time I did. Their only role models were their older colleagues, who treated women like crap and were heavy drinkers. Industry closes in the 80s, taking most supporting businesses with it including ranching, the railroad, etc. Those that as t this point are in their 40s or older, with zero education, their only job skills in an industry that no longer exists, addicted to alcohol, maybe drugs are stuck. Anywhere else they go in the region is going to be too expensive with the growth of the rich people ski hills nearby or the wealthy couple enclaves in the former ranching towns to the south. Drink and drug more. There is a large Hispanic community trapped in trailer parks, working slave labor jobs at the resorts downhill, then there is the yearly influx of us overedumacated racers, and us academics who still live in the town and try to improve things as we find stuff like domestic violence, falling apart housing, dead cars, hard core druggies, and mine waste a bit of a turnoff. We are also the folks that can contribute the most to needed charities, do most of the volunteer work, fix up our homes, clean up or restore our land. The old guard, which is also my local dating pool resentsus uppity women bbecause we avoid them and we also, being both educated and gainfully employed out earn them by a considerable margin. In some ways, I feel sorry for these dudes, in some ways I zero pity for them. Instead they chosedrink, drugs, cheap sex we actually had many prostitutes here , and the ski bum life instead. I had to leave a marriage andmy real home so I could be responsibly employed, pay my bills, provide for my own health care, save for retirement. This article does seem unfair and one-dimensional. Divorce IS complicated and getting involved with a divorcee will add some difficult and challenging aspects to a relationship. Every person is different. It CAN and DOES work. The longer you keep treading in those waters the more pain and loss of confidence in yourself, your own judgement, on the flipside… trust me, just under two years but I still feel pangs of sadness and remorse from time to time being reminded of him, which usually sends me into a low self esteem hangover and then here to Baggage Reclaim for comfort and consoling. I feel your pain! This man is married and neglected to tell you the truth. He is a liar and user. I can be certain that the wife does not know of his relationship with you, as he is still with her. Block and go NC immediately, or you will certainly be screwing yourself, and feel even lower, some months down the line! With widowers you can never get them to see past the dead wife who takes on sainthood status so they are a no go for me. My personal feelings are that men who end up single after many years have a rooster in the hen house mentality and like to bed as many women as possible to find what they want and ease their pain. They then screw themselves up and sadly others in the process. More fool those women who are willing to have such casual sex. For myself it is a case of trust. I was deceived and cheated on. The cheating that I knew about was for the last 2. I am 3 years single in the jungle, 2 years divorced and the thought of a relationship now actually terrifies me thanks to the AC I have met along the way. If people are together a long time and one becomes ill that is different but taking on someone who is ill is not something I am willing to do. Be happy, because he could have been doing the same. Lots of folks looked askance at our 28 year age difference but we did well. When I tried to date after we broke up, it was a completely different and very ugly world. I will no longer date men my age anymore. The AC was my age; lesson learned plus so many guys my age have small children and my parenting days are over. Men like my best friend, in his 70s, hold doors open for me, bring in firewood without being asked, help me on with my coat when we leave a restaurant. Try getting a 50 or younger to do those things. The AC was 10 years younger and had absolutely beautiful manners. Unfortunately, he set the bar high in that regard but also lied as easily as he breathed. I also expect to feel taken care of by a man in other ways, and, without that, my desire would not be piqued regardless of any other qualities. I think just like there are no hard and fast rules for how long it takes for someone to become emotionally available after the end of a relationship, there are also no age requirements for behaving like a gentleman. Unfortunately, there are people of all ages — male and female — seem to have been raised by wolves no matter where you are! I have literally zero time, patience or libido to deal with bs! At 47 and living in the deep south as a democrat, arty, vegan it is getting really hard to feel like I am going to meet anyone. I feel so unattracted to most of the guys I meet my age because so many of them are arrogantly dealing with their post-divorce issues…or they are 70 pounds overweight with no hobbies. I wish that I just did not care at all to date but there is a part of me that is still getting out there. They probably look at you as a Martian, as traditional as they are down there. It was bad then which is why my parents got us out of there. I def attribute a lot of my personality to having grown up in a place where there were The Bloods and The Crips, and really bad kids at school. You had to know how to fight or you were a sitting duck. I was never bullied, though. My sister lives in Flatbush right across the street from Prospect Park and the Brooklyn Botanical Gardens. How bout deal with your stuff… get yourself back and then begin something new. Its like being unemployed and trying to date…. U have a choice. Choose to be the best you possible. Why are you in a rush to be with someone else with this huge thing going on? Some of us became mentally divorced from the spouse years earlier. For us, the only issue is the hassle of waiting for and paying for the legal proceedings. And there are plenty of never-married people and people who have been divorced for decades who are jerks. I am really far too busy to date, and very nervous about it too, but I feel that I have processed the failure of my marriage and a proper relationship would be possible for me. I can see that some men would view my situation as very off putting, as my husband lives close by and we will continue to have a lot of contact because of our children who are still young. But that is the way it is and best for them. It is my observation, though, that generally speaking men find it harder to let go after divorce. So, ladies, have faith in the future generations. As far as now is concerned, in a face of what you quite accurately describe as an attitude of a vast number of leftover pool we meet, I think gotta keep going forward with a firm idea of what we want in a man and a relationship. Grace is right, belief is vital. How true it came for me. Everything else is trying to control the uncontrollable. I fear I am not doing so well with mine. Who knows what my future holds but I remain hopeful that it may include a loving relationship with a man. Call me an idiot but I still feel that is possible. I was in a great marriage for 12 years so I know what life SHOULD look like. I have to travel 100 miles one way to be with a man who is educated, well read, responsible, and takes care of himself. Hard when you teach full time and run a small farm and live where winter driving can be deadly. Your dudes sound like mine with the addition of being unemployed and uneducated. These dudes thenthink we aare evil picky bitches because we reject the even though they hate our values and lifestyle. Thisiswhine about wantiwanting to kill all need for human compcompanionship in myself or just shoot myse in the head and be done with it. You are totally out of your element. I wish the best for you and hope that once you retire you will relocate and put into place all the things in your life that you are missing now. The flip side is that these players then have a string of women at their beck and call as if it somehow enhances their desirability. But these women were what would be known as slags opening their legs to any offer. I never believed this man was shy and so it came to pass. No great loss then ladies and the ones who do take up with these men are the ones who have low boundaries that are easily busted. I will maintain my boundaries rather than accept any desperate, broken man that comes my way and remain happily single without all the drama and shit they bring. Sisters are doing it for themselves and I have had great companionship with other women. Attitudes have changed though and many men are very disparaging about women seeing them as little more than sexual objects especially with on-line dating. There may be a worthwhile man who has lost out on a woman who is honest, caring, giving, reliable, loyal etc. My head rules my heart so that my BS radar remains fully engaged now. But most everything Mr. Writer says I feel is true also. It seems no matter what or how good it looks initially, they just HAVE TO have some serious unacceptable quality that makes it a deal breaker. Married men who play around, separated, etc. When it ends, you were the worst bitch on the planet. Not one, not two, but three marriages! My daughter told me that probably as a young man and beyond he never learned how to love a woman in a manner that she could feel satisfied. I think I realize now that his feelings run only so deep. The ED certainly clouded the picture too because I attributed so much of his behavior to that issue. Yet, at the same time, I always felt that if he loved me as I loved him he would have been willing to make more effort with sharing affection, and not just cut it off altogether. How can you be so cavalier if you really love me? Anyway, now, at my age like Noquay said the only options I have are those men who have been divorced. That REALLY WAS the last chance saloon. We were so right for each other. But I have to learn how to be because I have no choice. My best friend is getting married next year, and another acquaintance who met a guy on line is having a whirlwind of a time in which he takes her on trips all over the world. I deserve the same. And,, for myself, as long as I want a man so much he will remain out of reach. My friends are either with a man and happy or without one and happy. Supposedly, prayer changes things. You are not going to be alone! Be patient, he will come when you are emotionally ready to accept him. You deserve to be happy, and you will find someone who compliments your incredible self! Happiness is transient as is sadness. Hold all of the moments. Your time will come again.. You sound so low I wanted to offer you a torch so you can shine the light back on yourself for the wonderful woman you are. BR needs your honest wise insightful self. Take some deep breaths and remember all those images in your head of the supposedly wonderful time everyone else seems to be having are just your visions. I asked my man the other day if I could put a picture of him on Facebook and he looked through the ones I was proposing and he chose one where he looked terrible, letting it all hang out, face relaxed, you know the thing. I protested and he said oh you want to put a fake Facebook picture up…just like everyone else!! Hope you feel better today. You are so down today! Is it something in the air…? In my view, you have every reason to know that love IS out there. You have the advantage of knowing what it looks like! To use an agricultural metaphor — right now, the ground lays fallow, which is the natural course of things. Nothing grows while fallow, but better times are ahead. Just ride with the mood, Tink. I am very lonely, too. I feel simpatico with you, even when we disagree. It really means a lot to me. The paths may be different but the ending is the same. Right now, I feel like I will never be less in love with him. And nobody knows it more than all you BR ladies. I will be VERY, VERY GLAD when this sadness has passed. My therapist told me on my last visit to make a list of things that soothe me. I was surprised to come up with 11 things. I should post it around my home so I can remember to do them. I am a very strong person when it comes to self preservation and not getting involved in activities or people who are not good for me. I just have to keep reminding myself that I did all I could and I am not the problem. He meant well, but was not able to give back to me with any semblance of equanimity. The ED situation was perfect for him to disentangle himself. I still wanted him. Believe me ladies, this is worse than harboring anger after being duped by an AC. What you feel is natural, you are still in love and the thought of meeting someone else is strange, even offensive. There are simply a lot more women in church than men. I reconciled myself to the likelihood of remaining single a while back, and will likely have to again. God is not that perverse. If you look around, there are gazillions of people partnered up. It is a normal desire not to be ashamed of. If seeing him makes you unhappier, then take a break from it. Do you go to the same church? You may want to consider a different one for a while. Just came in from church which is always uplifting. Mine is very large, we have about 5 different choirs and about 12 different ministeries. The congregation is terrific. Very friendly loving people. His church is the opposite, very small, impersonal, a dry unimaginative pastor, no choirs and an uninspiring service every Sunday. So we don't routinely go to each other's church. So, anyway, I am praying fervently every day for The Lord to change my heart and turn it away from him. It's working, whether it's God or me, I don't know. But I'm happy with the results. I keep reminding myself that I have survived and conquered much worse situations than this. Funny, the guest pastor said something that struck a chord with me this morning. It's because god has found the right one for you yet. Grace, I sense that you are a very private person and don't like to reveal too much about yourself. Have you agreed to be friends and do you see him as much as before? I wonder, because at one point our relationships were running neck and neck, and now mine is for the most part dead, and yours has been floundering. I am such an emotional person. I realize that for me it has to be all or nothing. I can't be his friend. It makes me feeling like bought a dozen eggs and only ended up with 11. At least I know what works best for me. I wish the best for you and wish it could work. It seems such a shame that both of us should strike out. But, thank God, luck and life are transient. Hopefully better days are in store for us both. After tht, been very busy working 2, sometimes 3 jobs, 7 days a wk to pay my mortgage now done, yay PLUS studying. I am lucky that my kids learnt positive lessons from the few assclowns I paraded through my life in front of them rather than negative ones, they have been BR-red in the last three years along side with me with great effects. Why not expect something good? There are very good things in my life despite no relationship. Just look at all you great people on this site, they are not just women. Going through discovery stage without falling into fantasy and florencing, not ignoring flags and paying attention to your gut is vital. Also not feeling desperate to be in a relationship will be a must, cos that will cloud the judgement. Plus healthy-ish self esteem. I like it so much how someone on this thread used the word expect. You have this huge disappointment now and it will pass. Yes, I need a group hug. I try so hard not to be so sad. But, all I can do is continue to work on ME which I am doing. There are better days ahead Tink, hugs, xxx. These things take time, so be patient with yourself. I hope life is treating you well. I get the act of marriage for reasons religious, legal inheritance, taxes or for the kids so that they feel secure and have the same surname as both parents. I never, even in my twenties regarded it as the ultimate commitment. I was married to a gentleman and had subsequent relationships with assclowns who had excellent manners ,most of whom wanted to marry me. Not among them one single relationship with true care and trust and respect and intimacy. Were you an EUM in your twenties? I can think of some examples though where someone may keep in touch with an ex where it may be innocent. By way of example, I have a male friend who was friends with an ex from his early years of university—many, many years ago. She had married, and he became friendly with the husband as well over the years. They all kept in touch occasionally, there were no lingering feelings on either side. When my friend started dating someone new, his girlfriend threatened to dump him when she heard about the fact that he kept in touch with this ex and her husband. It was sad to see. My friend is a good, loyal guy, and his keeping in touch occasionally with these friends about life events was harmless. I just wanted to include my own anecdotes as a divorced male still looking for a loving relationship. In response to MRwriter and the follow-on posts, I would like to say that I am an old fashioned sort of person. I have always believed in good manners, consideration, showing respect, building trust, showing appreciation, providing support, being reliable, on-time, and involved in my relationships. After reading BR I also realize I have been a people-pleaser with minimal boundaries and expectations that still were disappointed, and believed that this was due to failings on my part. After reading scores of the articles here, I realize that I became involved with exceedingly selfish women that were more than willing to take what I was trying to offer and then blame me for not giving more. I started dating my wife when I was about 33. She was a couple of months older. We got married when we were 35-36,after 2 years of dating-engagement. I was laid off as an engineer about a year and a half after we were married, and after long discussions between ourselves and friends, decided to go to law school to start a new career. I was told all along that this would be supported and the necessary sacrifices made. When I suggested we pay down our debt and save for our now 2 kids, I was told I was selfish, controlling, and only happy when I got things my way. At one point, my Ex made the statement that she was tired of deferring her life, and she had always done what she wanted and it worked out in the end. The proceedings went on for 2 years and cost 60-70k. Towards the end of the divorce, I met a woman that had the same commute as I did. We started dating while I was working as a lawyer. We would get together once or twice a week routinely for food and sex. We routinely went out to nice places, had good wine, enjoyed shows and movies together. At one point after about 8 months, I found out that she went out on a date i. A couple of weeks later I realized it bothered me because I was in love with her and told her so. We spent holidays together and she told me how she looked forward to spending the new year together. I usually worked later into the evening, so texted her when I was finishing up so we could meet, to find out after being at the party an hour and a half that she was going to stay for one more drink. I went to the bar to discover her flirting with some guy she had met. She assured me that I was her boyfriend in front of her friends. Also never her fault, nor ever any an apology. Now over 2 months NC. The point of all this is that decent guys that believe in what it take to have a worthwhile relationship do exist but can have it beaten out of them also. Seems they were basically the same type of person, only interested in what they could get from you rather than mutual fulfillment. I hope you become more self protective. You seem like a very nice guy, eager to trust. Get wiser and stronger without losing your empathetic nature. It has put a lot of what I was feeling and thinking into concrete terms. It is unfortunate that by the time we realize something is amiss, we are at the point of being hurt. My 17 yr old grandson is like your son, well-mannered, kind, caring and very loving to his Mom. He makes me believe that his generation will, hopefully, breed better men. Young people are exceedingly smart. I had to leave because I did controversial read, cost folks in power money environmental research. Sometimes doing the right thing is very, very, painful. I secured an apartment on the Upper East Side, worked as an stage actress earning my Equity card as well as eventually working at the MoMA without a college education. Was I particularly lucky? I would actually say yes, I was incredibly lucky as well as young, brave and hopeful. I had dreams and ambitions that did not align with marriage or having kids. I was self-aware enough to appreciate and understand where I was in my journey. I thought I had time. Time to live, grow and become more of myself as a person, an artist and a woman with experience. I was naive in many respects. A weird rationale to be sure and a funny one too, but I think I was ready to grow up not necessarily in a hurry, although this has a ring of truth, but I wanted to be free in most respects and yet, womanly and knowledgeable too. I dated in NYC stockbrokers, actors, artists, company men, producers, activists, men, like me discovering themselves and men older than me who were more established in every respect. Those who went beyond the first initial dates were not jerks. At least not overly and I will maintain most of them were actually pretty good guys in all respects. Now, I thought I was unlucky for a while. I thought it must be ME! Therapy, if anything, keeps proving my initial instincts correct as I am not clingy, open-minded, willing to date men of all types, shapes and er…sizes and financial backgrounds. I was raised with values. I listen and ask questions beyond the superficial. My life is far more active now then it was 5 years ago due to my career. And yet, I am invisible to men. My longest relationships were in my 20s when you could accuse me of soul-searching, taking risks, and yes, possibly being EUM in that I lived for me. I made that choice and it was one I contemplated. The woman I wanted to be ultimately, who has lived, loved, been cosmopolitan but can still ride a horse bareback and be a good shot with a pistol or a rifle. I drink, I smoke, I eat red meat. So what changed here folks? I got a serious problem with that. That would be a sweeping generalization and unfair to the good men who are out there doing right by their dependents. I am saying that unfortunately, men in general are operating from a very different mindset than they were 10-15 years ago. Whenever I try to change my behavior to allow this brave new world of dating and courtship, I, me, myself alone get burned every damn time. Are you being too guarded? Are you, are you…? If you skip to MY beat woman, then maybe I will acquiesce to a relationship solely on MY terms, MY prerogative, MY selfishness and not give you a thought. You have to lead me by the nose. I sincerely doubt 10-15 years ago he acted in the same manner. He may have still been overly cheap, selfish and withholding, but he knew then when the mores were different that a man has to uphold certain aspects in the dating ritual bargain. I have paid attention to this and even note the gender of the server: more time than not they are young and male. Women servers tend to put that check in the middle. I have squawked about this and been patted condescendingly on the head. It is a fact, not an emotion, not a perception but a damn standing fact. My mother and father in Texas laugh. So about two months ago my Mom calls me and she has a weird lilt to her voice. My father is 67. They have a shared bank account so who pays is never really in question. Read this and read the following well. My Mom said she now agrees with what I have been describing concerning the check as she and my Dad went to their favorite restaurant they have been loyal patrons for years and the server who has waited on them before put the check directly in front of her. She thought it was odd but let it go. The server: a young, pimply—her words male. Dad and her find this weird. The following week, they are at another fine dining establishment and the same exact thing happens and this time my Dad speaks up. Why did you put the check in front of the woman? Not even you two. He cannot understand it anymore I can. As to the check. I had dinner with a famous comedian 2 months back as I gave his show, ironically about the reciprocal nature of relationships, a good review. We went to the Cheesecake Factory in Pasadena before his stand up gig. This is a well-known somewhat celebrity with movies etc under his belt. My point: he is recognizable. We have appetizers and what not. The server, a young male, puts the check in front of me. The man I am with is a celebrity, twice my age, and the check is placed directly where my dinner plate had been. His loss but I felt a slight sense of vindication. Men are taking us for a ride and we are letting them. Hell, even the servers know this and their behaviors reflect this attitude. They by virtue of just having sprung up from the ground yesterday act as though they are entitled to our time, energy, compassion, sex, money and what all without any giving on their part in any real or significant way. When a man treats me, be it a friend, colleague, lover, etc. I am not ungrateful or a princess mentality. And yet, the only men who seem to comport themselves like men used to are in the 60 + category. I have yet to find the same sense of responsibility, care, respect, generosity in men 55 and below. Somewhere along the way in the last decade between online dating, easy and lazy communication, social media, online porn and this sex for sex sake mentality, men have given over to their baser natures and we women are allowing it because after awhile, being alone too much is by itself unhealthy and intimacy of the sort I bitch about cannot be experienced platonically. I should be dating and having fun like I did in my 20s and weeding out the temporary from the lasting. Is that too much to ask? I dated like that when I was young, inexperienced and yes, I had some knocks on the chin but not in the swiftest and blatant and unfeeling fashion I have run across the last few years. Not out of the gate. Was I really just lucky? A Because no one is hearing me! B When they do, it is long after I keep holding myself in check or scrutiny that I am the common denominator. C No matter what I do and am I out more than I have ever been my entire life, I am ignored, invisible, unseen, unheard, unappreciated, under valued and told to rise to some impossible standard but oh, no, the men cannot abide by having any standard to rise up to on their end. I applaud every woman on here with children or a child, I applaud the successful women who have a home, have savings and a nice car and you are telling me horror stories to make me weep because at least I can say on my end I am attractive, intelligent, funny yes, I can be , and a pretty good catch in the ocean of jellyfish and sharks but am I up to the same snuff as most of you who have worse to say about the relationships you are in. These are our only choices? A good man is akin to playing the lottery? There are the few of us who date on the superficial looks, money, etc.

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Remember, ladies, there are three sides to every story: His side, her side, and what really happened. My therapist met me on my last visit to make a list of things that soothe me. I encourage you to think about what would you like to do given where he is in his readiness for a new relationship. This man is actually 9 yrs older than myself and was an old pan of my brothers. If you skip to MY beat woman, then maybe I will acquiesce to a relationship solely on MY terms, MY prerogative, MY selfishness and not give you a thought. The other thing could be that and is really unsure about remarrying. Every single u I paid dearly. Afterall, your spending time with him and his kids, so you are justified having a convo with her. Its quite fresh and there are even days when I would like to call him but I think its best for me not to do this, he too to figure this out on his own and I will not be anyones shrink he was a great friend but I want more. He has told me that I am better suited for him than his ex wife in every way and that we dating someone recently divorced work together to get him through idea over his divorce. If your in a relationship, you have to ask to speak to the exWife. Go easy on him.

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Locally, physical characteristics of rocks can be compared and correlated. Once you find your worksheet, click on pop-out icon or print icon to worksheet to print or download. Use this information to sequence the cards in a vertical stack of fossils in rock strata.

By matching partial sequences, the truly oldest layers with fossils can be worked out. The brachiopod, crinoid, eurypterid, foraminifera, gastropod, horn coral, pelecypod, and trilobite could probably not be used as index fossils since they overlap more than one stratum. This relative time scale divides the vast amount of earth history into various sections based on geological events sea encroachments, mountain-building, and depositional events , and notable biological events appearance, relative abundance, or extinction of certain life forms.

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A RELATIVE DATING ACTIVITY and INTRODUCTION PALEONTOLOGY, AND in particular the study of dinosaurs, is an exciting topic to people of all ages. Although most attention in today's world focuses on dinosaurs and why they became extinct, the world of paleontology includes many other interesting organisms which tell us about Earth's past history. The study of fossils and the exploration of what they tell scientists about past climates and environments on Earth can be an interesting study for students of all ages. Teaching about Earth's history is a challenge for all teachers. Time factors of millions and billions of years is difficult even for adults to comprehend. In this activity, students begin a sequencing activity with familiar items — letters written on cards. Sequencing the rock layers will show students how paleontologists use fossils to give relative dates to rock strata. Extinction of species is common; most of the species that have lived on the earth no longer exist. RELATIVE DATING Student Activity INTRODUCTION Scientists have good evidence that the earth is very old, approximately four and one-half billion years old. Scientific measurements such as radiometric dating use the natural radioactivity of certain elements found in rocks to help determine their age. Scientists also use direct evidence from observations of the rock layers themselves to help determine the relative age of rock layers. Specific rock formations are indicative of a particular type of environment existing when the rock was being formed. For example, most limestones represent marine environments, whereas, sandstones with ripple marks might indicate a shoreline habitat or a riverbed. The study and comparison of exposed rock layers or strata in various parts of the earth led scientists in the early 19th century to propose that the rock layers could be correlated from place to place. Locally, physical characteristics of rocks can be compared and correlated. On a larger scale, even between continents, fossil evidence can help in correlating rock layers. The Law of Superposition, which states that in an undisturbed horizontal sequence of rocks, the oldest rock layers will be on the bottom, with successively younger rocks on top of these, helps geologists correlate rock layers around the world. This also means that fossils found in the lowest levels in a sequence of layered rocks represent the oldest record of life there. By matching partial sequences, the truly oldest layers with fossils can be worked out. By correlating fossils from various parts of the world, scientists are able to give relative ages to particular strata. This is called relative dating. This would also mean that fossils found in the deepest layer of rocks in an area would represent the oldest forms of life in that particular rock formation. If certain fossils are typically found only in a particular rock unit and are found in many places worldwide, they may be useful as index or guide fossils in determining the age of undated strata. By using this information from rock formations in various parts of the world and correlating the studies, scientists have been able to establish the. This relative time scale divides the vast amount of earth history into various sections based on geological events sea encroachments, mountain-building, and depositional events , and notable biological events appearance, relative abundance, or extinction of certain life forms. Objectives: When you complete this activity, you will be able to: 1 sequence information using items which overlap specific sets; 2 relate sequencing to the Law of Superposition; and 3 show how fossils can be used to give relative dates to rock layers. Materials: two sets of sequence cards in random order : nonsense syllables; : sketches of fossils , pencil, paper Procedure Set A: 1 Spread the cards with the nonsense syllables on the table and determine the correct sequence of the eight cards by comparing letters that are common to individual cards and, therefore, overlap. Sequence the remaining cards by using the same process. Interpretation Questions: 1 After you have arranged the cards in order, write your sequence of letters using each letter only once on a separate piece of paper. Starting with the top card, the letters should be in order from youngest to oldest. Procedure Set B: 1 Carefully examine the second set of cards which have sketches of fossils on them. Each card represents a particular rock layer with a collection of fossils that are found in that particular rock stratum. All of the fossils represented would be found in sedimentary rocks of marine origin. The letters on the other cards have no significance to the sequencing procedure and should be ignored at this time. Find a rock layer that has at least one of the fossils you found in the oldest rock layer. This rock layer would be younger as indicated by the appearance of new fossils in the rock stratum. Keep in mind that extinction is forever. Once an organism disappears from the sequence it cannot reappear later. Use this information to sequence the cards in a vertical stack of fossils in rock strata. Arrange them from oldest to youngest with the oldest layer on the bottom and the youngest on top. Interpretation Questions: 1 Using the letters printed in the lower left-hand corner of each card, write the sequence of letters from the youngest layer to the oldest layer i. This will enable your teacher to quickly check whether you have the correct sequence. RELATIVE DATING Teacher Version INTRODUCTION Scientists have good evidence that the earth is very old, approximately four and one-half billion years old. Scientific measurements such as radiometric dating use the natural radioactivity of certain elements found in rocks to help determine their age. Scientists also use direct evidence from observations of the rock layers themselves to help determine the relative age of rock layers. Specific rock formations are indicative of a particular type of environment existing when the rock was being formed. For example, most limestones represent marine environments, whereas, sandstones with ripple marks might indicate a shoreline habitat or a riverbed. The study and comparison of exposed rock layers or strata in various parts of the earth led scientists in the early 19th century to propose that the rock layers could be correlated from place to place. Locally, physical characteristics of rocks can be compared and correlated. On a larger scale, even between continents, fossil evidence can help in correlating rock layers. The Law of Superposition, which states that in an undisturbed horizontal sequence of rocks, the oldest rock layers will be on the bottom, with successively younger rocks on top of these, helps geologists correlate rock layers around the world. This also means that fossils found in the lowest levels in a sequence of layered rocks represent the oldest record of life there. By matching partial sequences, the truly oldest layers with fossils can be worked out. By correlating fossils from various parts of the world, scientists are able to give relative ages to particular strata. This is called relative dating. This would also mean that fossils found in the deepest layer of rocks in an area would represent the oldest forms of life in that particular rock formation. If certain fossils are typically found only in a particular rock unit and are found in many places worldwide, they may be useful as index or guide fossils in determining the age of undated strata. By using this information from rock formations in various parts of the world and correlating the studies, scientists have been able to establish the. This relative time scale divides the vast amount of earth history into various sections based on geological events sea encroachments, mountain-building, and depositional events , and notable biological events appearance, relative abundance, or extinction of certain life forms. Objectives: When you complete this activity, you will be able to: 1 sequence information using items which overlap specific sets; 2 relate sequencing to the Law of Superposition; and 3 show how fossils can be used to give relative dates to rock layers. The nonsense syllables or letters sometimes overlap other cards and are being used to introduce the students to the concept of sequencing. The cards should be duplicated, laminated, and cut into sets and randomly mixed when given to the students. It is recommended that students complete Procedure and answer the associated Interpretation Questions correctly before proceeding to. The cards in represent rock layers containing various fossils. For , you may want to color code each organism type i. Sequencing the rock layers will show the students how paleontologists use fossils to give relative dates to rock strata. To enhance this activity, have students match the fossil sketches to real fossils. You may use fossils from the John Hanley Fossil Teaching Set. To request a Fossil Teaching Set, call the Geology Museum at the Colorado School of Mines 303 273-3815. The following is a list of fossils in the John Hanley Fossil Teaching Set that may be useful in this activity. Brachiopod VGastropod VI-2 Trilobite VIIIPelecypod VI-1 Graptolite XAmmonite VI-3b Corals IIIa, IIIbShark's Tooth XI-1a Crinoids IXa, IxbForaminifera I illustrates a hypothetical stratigraphic section of rocks which include fossil assemblages represented in. It may be useful to share with students after they have completed and answered the Interpretation Questions. Procedure : 1 Spread the cards with the nonsense syllables on the table and determine the correct sequence of the eight cards by comparing letters that are common to individual cards and, therefore, overlap. Sequence the remaining cards by using the same process. Interpretation Questions: 1 After you have arranged the cards in order, write your sequence of letters using each letter only once on a separate piece of paper. Starting with the top card, the letters should be in order from youngest to oldest. The correct sequence of letters for the cards in from youngest to oldest rock strata is MDXONBUAGCT. Please note that none of the letters in this sequence may be reversed and still be correct. The sequence must be exactly in the order as written. It is not uncommon to have students reverse the M and D for example and begin the sequence with DM because that is the way they are printed on the card. It is good at this time to remind them that these letters represent fossils in a rock layer and that one fossil next to another within a rock layer implies no particular sequencing; they both are approximately the same age as that particular rock layer. The following question may help clarify this point. Using the Law of Superposition, the rock layer OXD is beneath rock layer DM and, therefore, is older. The fossils within rock layer OXD i. Therefore, D in the rock layer OXD is older than D in the rock layer DM. Procedure : 1 Carefully examine the second set of cards which have sketches of fossils on them. Each card represents a particular rock layer with a collection of fossils that are found in that particular rock stratum. All of the fossils represented would be found in sedimentary rocks of marine origin. The letters on the other cards have no significance to the sequencing procedure and should be ignored at this time. Find a rock layer that has at least one of the fossils you found in the oldest rock layer. This rock layer would be younger as indicated by the appearance of new fossils in the rock stratum. Keep in mind that extinction is forever. Once an organism disappears from the sequence it cannot reappear later. Use this information to sequence the cards in a vertical stack of fossils in rock strata. Arrange them from oldest to youngest with the oldest layer on the bottom and the youngest on top. Interpretation Questions: 1 Using the letters printed in the lower left-hand corner of each card, write the sequence of letters from the youngest layer to the oldest layer i. This will enable your teacher to quickly check whether you have the correct sequence. The graptolite, placoderm, ammonite, ichthyosaur, and shark's tooth could possibly be used as index fossils since they are found in only one layer. Technically, however, given only this set of strata, one cannot say that the shark's tooth and ichthyosaur could be used as index fossils because we do not know if they continue in younger rock layers above this set of strata. The brachiopod, crinoid, eurypterid, foraminifera, gastropod, horn coral, pelecypod, and trilobite could probably not be used as index fossils since they overlap more than one stratum. Marine sedimentary rocks such as limestone, shale, and sandstone might contain fossils similar to those depicted in this activity. This activity illustrates this law because when the cards are placed in the correct order, the vertical stack shows the oldest fossils in a rock layer in the bottom of the stack and the youngest fossils in rock stratum on the top. Stratigraphic Section for Set B Set B.

Relative Dating - Example 2
By matching partial sequences, the truly oldest layers with fossils can be worked out. This is called relative dating. This rock con would be younger as indicated by the appearance of new fossils in the rock stratum. The following question may help clarify this point. Foryou may want to color code each organism type i. Extinction of species is common; most of the species that have met on the earth no longer exist.

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